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Post by Guardian on Oct 7, 2014 5:20:02 GMT 10
After reading an ad on the weekend, I was wondering how many are specifically breeding dun coloured dexters?
How many duns do you have wandering the paddock?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2014 18:49:14 GMT 10
I wish I had more, the only dun I have at the minute is the bull. I know of a breeder in the US that only breeds duns!! How goods that!! I love the duns, the day I breed one Ill be rapt!!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2014 23:06:21 GMT 10
To be honest squirt, I am not as fussed on dun as black and red. Those I have had never seem to get that beautiful coat that is close and glossy, the hair always seems more coarse in texture. The only ones I have ever seen like that are those that are clipped for shows and the rough coat has been removed. I would never breed for a particular colour, just have whatever eventuates, you know, the old saying "no good horse(read bovine) is a bad colour"? They are all the same once their skin is off anyway LOL
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Post by John on Oct 8, 2014 11:37:12 GMT 10
We like the dun although we don't breed specifically for it. At the moment we have only two dun adult cows, a 14 year old dun bull who is still working and two recently born dun calves. One is a bull calf and the other a heifer. The dun bull calf has the most amazingly beautiful yellow tinged eyes which I like, but which some people find creepy.
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Post by dexteraddict on Oct 8, 2014 12:45:22 GMT 10
We dont specially breed for the colour but we have more than most making it more common for it to appear each year.
We also have a high percentage of dun carriers.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2014 19:41:40 GMT 10
Yes we are, and trying to zero in on the polled dun too. I haven't ever shown before but I've heard the dun doesn't show as well as black. I can't wait for the day where my polled dun cow and calf are being walked around the show ring by my children! LOL at this rate though it might turn out to be my grandchildren!
Interesting comment Donna that you have more than most, how did you reach that conclusion?
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Post by dexteraddict on Oct 20, 2014 7:40:38 GMT 10
Hi Squarepeg Reached that conclusion from comments from visitors who have been to a couple of studs before coming to us as well as other breeders we interact with. And it has been a general observation of the online herdbook records. If expected last calf for 2014 is dun in colour we will total 12  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2014 18:53:28 GMT 10
Hi Donna,
I guess if you have dun breeding with dun for a few years then more dun will come (right?, or can dun and dun make black!?! I see you wrote in the genetics section too...) Wow that's a lot of Dun! Well I hope your dun are also providing you with the right confirmation and temperament you are looking for.
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Post by dexteraddict on Oct 22, 2014 7:37:42 GMT 10
Hi Squarepeg It was just the way it turned out. We chose those foundation moos on relationships in bloodlines and the ability to instantly close the herd for decades to come. It was only when test results were known did we realise just how many dun carriers we had. I’d have a guess at about 75% of the black and red members of the herd are dun carriers. It may be higher. Then we have the duns too Given we analyse ‘coefficient inbreeding’ percentages when determining the next year calves, we should have a mixture of the three colours appearing each year. And if we also end up with the ideal of dwarfs as well as non-dwarfs in each of the Dexter colours…..then we are heading towards our goal while also establishing and cementing conformation. Our goal is to have Dexter trait combinations of “Prospector 7558” (the famous Hereford bull) within the next decade as our herd. Big ask but not impossible. The ultimate goal is what you see is what you will produce with Donlin breeders. But you would be heading towards that goal as well with dun coloured polled Dexters because you would eliminate from the breeding program any Dexter who wasn’t meeting your desirable conformation standards. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2014 20:40:15 GMT 10
Well we have one little dun man on the ground now, and one red man (hetero polled). Having never had a red calf/cow before I had to send the pics around to confirm it's red!  Did a google search and found a great American dexter page on the genetics of colouring and have worked out my "odds" for the rest of the herd. I've also realised my dun heifer (hopefully in calf, if not she's morbidly obese!!!) may throw a red calf. Ahh such is life we're now thinking of going for whatever colours but focus on improving our herd confirmation for what we're looking to do. Have the trifecta in bull calves though, red dun and black. Anyone in need of a bull?!?!? 
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Did a google search and found a great American dexter page on the genetics of colouring and have worked out my "odds" for the rest of the herd. I've also realised my dun heifer (hopefully in calf, if not she's morbidly obese!!!) may throw a red calf. Ahh such is life we're now thinking of going for whatever colours but focus on improving our herd confirmation for what we're looking to do. Have the trifecta in bull calves though, red dun and black. Anyone in need of a bull?!?!? 